Let them learn with experience and practice to learn to shoot at longer ranges. I also feel that training a youth not to take shots over that distance is a responsible habit for an adult to teach younger shooters.

As one can see, the increase in fps is not that much, and would make no real world difference, as I consider that 200 yds would be max range. Start looking for max with 18 grains or so. Results for a 64 grain Winchester would be close to the same, just recommend working up.

The 223 has the economy of cheaper brass, but the 22/250 I thought offered more flexibility by being able to achieve higher velocities with heavier bullets than the 223 achieves.įor training of youths to deer hunt, the 63 grain bullet offered a lot of promise of everything tested. 20 grs: 2982 fps ( Popped primer, jammed bolt)įor training and starting out a youth, I consider the 22/250 a better first choice to start out with, based on the test results as compared to a 223. 19 grs: 2958 fps ( Consider Maximum!, NO problems observed)ġ4. Sierra 63 grain Semi Pointed ( SMP) Win Mag Rifle Primerġ3. I am just reporting damage to media, and penetration that I am passing on to the reader. Key is shot placement and range limitation. Some argue against 22 Center fire on deer and others are just fine with it. Use on deer is the personal choice of the shooter or adult. The 63 grain Sierra SMP showed a lot more damage to the tree than did the Hornady, and at a much lower velocity. Based on this I would recommend this point as a potential deer load for youths, keeping range within 100 to 125 yds or so ( 30/30 range). Recommend Max load at 19 grains or less.īased on tree used as back stop, which had a 6 inch diameter to it, bullets at 15 grains of powder and up were penetrating the tree completely. 20 grs: 3119 fps ( primer leaked, extractor marks, scrapped case) Hornady 60 grain SP, Win Mag Rifle Primerġ4. However once again I recommend max capacity at 19 grains or less. IV Winchester 55 gr FMJ, Win Large Pistol PrimerĪs again Noted, this bullet also achieved reaching the 20 grain Mark ( 60%). However once again I recommend max being set at 19 grains or less. This bullet also reached the 20 grains mark ( 60 %). III Sierra 52 grain Hollow Point Match Win Large Pistol Primer However, I would recommend max being set at 19 grains or less. With this bullet, all the way to 20 grains was reached ( 60%). 50 grain Hornady SP, Win Large Rifle Primer 20 grs: 3440 fps ( Extractor Mark, Scrapped Case) 46 grain Winchester Hollow Point, Win Large Pistol Primerġ4. 20 % ( 6.6 grains) 60 % ( 19.8 grains)Ĥ6 Win HP, 50 Hornady SP, 52 Sierra HP Match, 55 Win FMJ, 60 Hornady SP That notwithstanding.here is some data you may find useful. it adds to the rifle versatility with reduced loads.these loads are results I have tested, but ultimately the safety of such loads are the responsibility of the handloader himself as he is the only one that has control over his use of ANY data and the safety precautions of his handloading techniques. 223.Well, I don't agree with those above that the 22.250 can't do reliable service with reduced loads also. 300BLK which was designed for heavier loads and subsonic loads and was happier than I was dorking around with subsonic. Sorry for the negative post, but at one point I had the same thought. 223 subs? Just for shits and giggles at the range or is there a specific niche you want to fill for hunting? Heavier bullets usually mean longer bullets and those may not stabilize in the twist rates you have. You can't go too heavy because eventually you'll exceed the pressure spec. The obvious path to subsonic loads is to go with heavier bullets since velocity has an upper limit. If you go down the path of reloading, do your homework on bullets, twist rate, and find some good recipes before you invest in all the gear. Nothing is insurmountable and I accept that maybe I was doing something stupid as it was the first rifle caliber I ever loaded. AR cases get filthy, the cases are smaller, theres the f'cking crimps to scrape out, and theres not a lot of case capacity to work with. It helped during the ammo drought but at current prices its hard to justify. I found it to be an irritating pain in the ass honestly. I have not reloaded subsonics but I have reloaded.

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